[onebornfree commentary: Sleazon's Greedings everyone!
This is an excellent article from Mike Adams that draws attention to the many myths that an individual is continually exposed to on an hourly/daily basis within the context of their "normal" day to day existence. A key part [the key part?] of becoming a freer individual within an unfree world is to recognize/identify the type of misinformation exposed here and to take action to protect oneself against believing any of it- to effectively see through "the Matrix" of it all. The Freedom Network is a network of individuals who have already seen through much of this "matrix" of lies, and who might be able to help you improve your life by doing the same, helping you to become a freer individual in a woefully unfree world. Regards, onebornfree.]
Your entire reality has been scripted by the manipulation masters
Mike Adams
December 21, 2012
" You may have already noticed the Mayan calendar prophecy was a hoax. The universe didn’t end. We’re all still here, and we must face our future rather than writing it off.
The Sandy Hook shooting outrage reaction is also a fear mongering hoax. You have been manipulated by Obama and the mainstream media into invoking an irrational, hyped-up response to an event that poses virtually no risk to the American people. How’s that? For starters, 116,000% more Americans die each year in motor vehicle accidents than were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary. You are far more likely to be killed by a deer in the road than a psychopathic mass shooter. And you are WAY more likely to be killed by your doctor than by a gun: An astonishing 784,000 Americans are killed each year by their doctors.
Approximately one-quarter of all Americans have been emotionally manipulated into worshipping a false prophet: Barack Obama, one of the world’s great mass murderers of children who is right now signing off on yet more unarmed drone bombings of innocent children in Libya, Afghanistan, and soon Syria and Iran. You don’t see those children on television, and Obama sheds no tears for them. They are the “invisible” children of the world whose deaths don’t matter to the U.S. media, which celebrates mass violence and deadly wars.
Almost everything you think is real is actually a fabrication. Virtually everything you believe about banking, politics, medicine, the media and even history has been falsified and engineered in order to enslave you in the modern-day version of The Matrix. You have been enslaved so deeply that you do not even realize you’re a slave. You worship your slave masters and beg them to take away more of your money, your freedoms and your very future. You are the product of a centuries-long campaign of cultural manipulation, revisionist history and, more recently, chemical influence.
You are living out the dystopian sci-fi future right now, today, numbed by chemical fluoride acids and dumbed-down by injections of mercury, MSG and formaldehyde as ordered by the U.S. government.
I pray for you. I pray that you may be awakened from your slumber and find some way to clear away the cobwebs that have been placed in your mind by the sinister, almost demonic dark forces that manipulate human minds on our planet.
Although granted free will, you have been convinced to suppress it
The most sinister part of The Matrix in which you now live is that you have been cajoled and convinced to suppress your own free will and surrender to the manipulators who control not just your mind, but your entire reality.
As Edward Bernays, the father of modern propaganda, explained:
If we understand the mechanisms and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing it… We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of…
In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons… who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.
Stealth manipulation and cognitive control
Every time you turn on the television, false ideas, mythologies and delusions are being subconsciously implanted into the belief system portion of your brain. This happens when you watch the news, when you enjoy a movie, or even when you pay your taxes. You’ve been hoodwinked into believing utter false things like, “America is a free country” or “the government cares about you” or “the drug companies are humanitarian organizations.”
The most notable property of this propaganda and engineered influence is that people who are routinely and deeply manipulated by this propaganda have no clue that they are.
Nearly everyone, if you ask them, will insist they are not being manipulated by anyone. They make their own decisions, they insist. And yet they go to the store and buy all the toxic product brands that have been shown to them on television. They worship mass murderers who run for President (Bush, Obama, etc.) They enslave themselves in a system of financial work-cropping and taxation that benefits only the global monopolist bankers who run the debt cartels.
Your values, ethics, emotions and mythologies are entirely manipulated and contrived. Here’s one way to challenge yourself on this right now: Do you celebrate Columbus Day? Christopher Columbus was a mass murderer.
Do you watch the fireworks on July 4th? Most people are mindless to the whole point of July 4th which is to celebrate Independence Day — independence from British tyranny, gun control, illegal searches, secret prisons, and so on. And yet all these things have been brought back to America by Obama. The fireworks are supposed to be a reminder of the battles that our forefathers fought so that we might enjoy freedom. Instead, the fireworks mesmerize a barely-conscious population as they sleepwalk right into the jaws of tyranny and oppression, slobbering their way to their next chronic disease as they eat themselves to death with GMOs and aspartame.
You have been taught delusional mythologies about vaccines and flu shots: “Flu shots stop the flu!” is a delusional anti-fact that’s catapulted into a global meme (mind virus) by the same industry which now claims injecting mercury is good for children. “Science” has become the tyrannical cry of those who absolutely despise science but who invoke the word to demand obedience to their own warped chemical doctrines.
You have been taught delusional financial mythologies such as the idea that the U.S. government needs to collect taxes to fund itself. In reality, the Fed can create all the money it needs instantly, just like it does to bail out banks. You are taxed not to raise revenue but to be oppressed and controlled.
You have been told who to worship — singers, basketball players, big government — and even more importantly who to hate: white people, gun owners, preppers, veterans, Ron Paul supporters and anyone who grows their own food.
And when the next false flag event occurs in America, you will be “shocked” and “outraged,” and you will believe it was carried out by whomever the government and the media claims carried it out. You will also believe that your reaction is happening of your own free will and you will have no clue the entire thing has been scripted and injected directly into your head.
Open your eyes and look in the mirror, slave
You are a pawn in a grand mind game. You have been imprisoned in a mental construct that is so powerful and elusive that you actually defend the very system which has enslaved you.
You’ve been trained to think that anyone who questions the system is a “conspiracy theorist” or a “kook.” Every strategy of mental influence has been used against you, over and over again: safety in the herd, neurolinguistic programming, fear reactions, prisoner training (TSA), false symbols of authority, false flags and so on.
Like most people, you were born into slavery and you will die a slave. You will not rise above it and declare your free will sovereignty because you have been trained to be a conformist coward. You will, at every opportunity, trade away your liberty for social approval, because you have been taught to believe that the worst thing in the world is to be “different” from the conformist masses.
In essence, you have wasted your entire life — a life offering an incredible, sacred spiritual journey where you have been granted free will, a human body and the consciousness to be your own being — yet you discard all these gifts in your race to be like everyone else, think like everyone else, talk like everyone else and “fit in” without daring to unleash your individuality.
Your soul cries spiritual tears at the wasted opportunity to do something with your life. Your Creator is utterly disappointed but not surprised, as most souls who come to this Earth follow the same comfortably-numb path of conformity and self-enslavement.
Awaken NOW
While your physical life still has time remaining, you have every opportunity to do something different with it. Break the chains of mental enslavement. Break free from the social approval bonds that have limited your beliefs, your speech and your ideas. Take that quantum leap from conformity to being a true explorer of reality — a person who asks questions, observes events, connects the dots and seeks to be enlightened.
You will not break free from the Matrix if you watch mainstream news or get your values and information from the White House. You can only be free if you first free yourself from toxic information sources which only seek to manipulate and control you. Turn off NPR. Banish the New York Times from your web browser. Turn on Natural News, InfoWars, the courageousDavid Icke and other alternative websites that genuinely seek the truth and dare to report it, no matter how eccentric or bizarre it may sound to the uninitiated.
Expand your consciousness to take in the sacred enormity of the universe around you, or you shall remain forever bound and diminutive in this soul journey we call “life.” Upon your death, your soul will review your life and declare, “Wow, you wasted the ultimate gift of life in a desperate bid to remain unremarkable.”
But you do not have to continue on that path. You can change now by casting aside conformity and seeking reality.
My prayer for you
May you live a life that your spirit sees as worthy. May you awaken from your slumber and be blessed with understanding. And may you then use that wisdom to awaken others, spread freedom, defeat evil and enlighten our species so that it can finally pursue the abundant and joyful future we all deserve.
ARTICLE SOURCE : Natural News
“Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be "reformed"or "improved",simply because of their innate criminal nature.” onebornfree
Showing posts with label Dark Knight Rises. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Dark Knight Rises. Show all posts
Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Sunday, August 12, 2012
False Political Choices of "The Dark Knight Rises"
[Commentary: one of the goals of politics is to get you to unquestioningly accept the idea that to "solve" your problems, there are only two choices available, both political ; either "tweedle-dum, or "tweedle-dee". As one of the main propaganda organs of the state, Hollywood's main agenda is to reinforce that very idea in the viewer. The third Batman movie from director Christopher Nolan is a perfect example of the attempted selling of what is politely termed "a false dichotomy", or a bold-faced lie, or brainwashing, by any other name, as pointed out by the reviewer Jeffrey Tucker. Here's hoping that you are intelligent enough to see through the lie. Regards, onebornfree, & The Freedom Network]
"Before the third of the Batman trilogy hit theaters, I had heard that The Dark Knight Rises was a film without hope, with a long and dreary narrative that never loosens its grip. It leaves the viewer without a sense of answers.
I saw it and left confused. It saw it again, and left confused again. All the while, I kept wondering if this interpretive effort would pay off. Maybe it’s just another movie and lacks the ideological signifcance of the other two.
I too had read several reviews that had condemned the film from a left-wing point view, arguing that it took at cheap shot at the Occupy Wall Street movement, suggesting that it consists mainly of brainless menaces who are easily manipulated by a strongman leader. The filmmakers deny this.
Regardless, this was probably the best political feature of the film.
However, the merit of its warning about left-wing populism was seriously compromised by the portrayal of the Gotham cops as saintly guardians of the social order. Neoconservatives loved this part of the film, made all the better to them because the prisons are full and Gotham is ruled by a civilian-led authoritarian regime of tight law and surveillance — the neocon dream come true.
What’s going on here? Why is the movie so full of mixed messages and, in the end, so unsatisfying?
Finally, it hit me. And this will be perfectly obvious once you hear it.
The problem is that the film gives Gotham (and us) a choice between two forms of despotism, one “left wing” and one “right wing,” and asks us to choose the lesser of two evils. We can have one of two systems: bureaucratic/authoritarian or revolutionary/dictatorial. The idea of a self-managing society is just out of the question. The film biases that choice by showing one as offered by the evil villain and the other by a corrupt, yet stable status quo.
Do you see now? Dark Knight Rises replicates the choice that the present political system presents to us. We look at the choices and throw up our hands, knowing full well that neither really offers answers to the problem. Watching this film is like watching the Sunday talk shows that feature two flavors of the same poison. It’s the State of the Union address and the response to the State of the Union address, neither of which tells what’s true or gives us a way out.
It’s the two sides of the street fights between the Occupy protesters and the cops. It’s the left versus the right. It’s Republicans versus Democrats. It’s “law and order” versus revolutionary dictatorship. It’s Italian fascism versus Soviet communism. It’s the two sides of the Spanish Civil War. It is also the choice faced by old Rome in its late stage: rule by a corrupt oligarchy of the Senate or a cruel imperial dictatorship of Caesar.
It is the choice given to every nation in its late stages. No truly informed citizen believes that this is all that should be on the menu. But Dark Knight Rises doesn’t show us another way. It never shows us the option of a self-managing society where people are permitted to shape their own destinies apart from the will of two gangs of political elites. Whoever wins the great struggle over Gotham’s future, the results will be imposed from the top down.
The result is that viewers are left with a sense of hopelessness in the same way that the current political climate denies people authentic hope. Whatever happens will come from the center and top, leaving the rest of us unfree to manage our own lives, keep and use our own property, mind our own business and cobble together our own human associations. In The Dark Knight Rises, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are not even distant memories.
The film opens with Bruce Wayne/Batman in a long period of retirement, living alone in his mansion during eight years of stability in Gotham. But what is this stability, really? It’s not prosperity, because the homes for orphans are full and they can’t get jobs once they are too old to live there. The prisons are jammed with supposedly violent thugs and the leaders of organized crime, swept off the streets thanks to a new draconian law that unleashed government power.
The new law is named after martyred district attorney Harvey Dent. In the first scenes of Gotham, the city is celebrating Harvey Dent Day. The police are in firm control of the city, as led by the police commissioner and the political powers of the city. From the perspective of the elites, nothing is wrong. Life is blessedly boring. Crime has fallen so low that police joke about soon having to chase down people with overdue library books.
Is there corruption? Of course. This is Gotham. In fact, the corruption is so deep and pervasive that the saintly district attorney after whom the present order is named is a lie. He is actually the villain named Two-Face — a perfect metaphor for every member of the political class. In his tenure, he said one thing and did another. People thought he was doing good, but he was secretly doing evil. Even the best men of the current regime in Gotham are willing to spread the lie of the greatness of Dent, solely for the purpose of maintaining government power and immunizing the power structure from criticism.
The strongman dictator Bane sees the vulnerability of this seemingly stable system. He perceives that people are seeking something, some form of liberation, and that he can use this political impulse to solidify his control over Gotham on his way to plotting its final destruction. He recruits the unemployed to work under the city in the sewers to plot his takeover.
Bane has plenty of people willing to risk death to work for him, both because they are desperate and because Bane offers a radical alternative to the present order. Meanwhile, the city elites go on about their daily tasks, completely oblivious to what is happening beneath the surface.
At the appointed hour, Bane initiates shock and awe in the form of massive explosions throughout the city. At the football game where a large portion of Gotham’s citizens are gathering, Bane blows up the field, and announces to everyone that he is the new leader of the city. Their elites have failed and now a people’s revolution is taking place.
“Gotham, take control,” Bane says, “take control of your city. Behold, the instrument of your liberation! Identify yourself to the world!”
The rich are looted. The prisoners are set free to become armed gangs in the Bane regime. Show trials are established on the model of the late stages of the French Revolution. Guilt is presumed and everyone is sent to die, to the cheers of the workers and peasants. Meanwhile, the bourgeoisie cower in their homes in fear.
This is when the Dark Knight rises to set the world right again. His most-loyal allies in this army are the massive number of police who had been recruited during the years of seemingly crimeless stability.
As audience members, we are being asked to cheer for Batman because he opposes the bloody and ruthless Bane, who is a Stalin-like figure. But the best possible result that Gotham can get out of this is a restoration and intensification of the previous fascist system of police, prisons, rule by corrupt elites and mandatory obedience to Gotham’s version of the Patriot Act and the Department of Homeland Security.
As a result, it is hard to cheer. The choice is left or right dictatorship. It is Occupy versus the cops. It is Stalin versus Mussolini all over again. It is Hoover versus FDR. It is the Democrat despot or the Republican despot.
This is the dreadful choice that political systems all over the world have set up. You have to decide, based on your cultural identity and ideological preferences, what form of top-down rule you desire. There’s Plan A or Plan B, but no Plan C. There are two types of prison cells, but there is no way out of the prison itself. Our choices are not really authentic choices. All of us are inchoately aware that whatever the results are, we will not be freer than we were before.
One of the most-compelling images of the film is a prison that is considered the worst prison in the world. It is buried deep in a hole. You can look up 200 feet in the air and see the light, but there is no way that ordinary people can climb out. This is a chilling image of where most people in the developed world are today. We look up and we see a far-distant light, and that light is called liberty. But we don’t see a way to get there.
This much we can see. There is no Dark Knight who will save us. We must save ourselves. "
Jeffrey A. Tucker Article Original Source
Other recent onebornfree "Batman- The Dark Knight Rises" articles: http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2012/08/was-batman-shooting-government-staged.html
"Before the third of the Batman trilogy hit theaters, I had heard that The Dark Knight Rises was a film without hope, with a long and dreary narrative that never loosens its grip. It leaves the viewer without a sense of answers.
I saw it and left confused. It saw it again, and left confused again. All the while, I kept wondering if this interpretive effort would pay off. Maybe it’s just another movie and lacks the ideological signifcance of the other two.
I too had read several reviews that had condemned the film from a left-wing point view, arguing that it took at cheap shot at the Occupy Wall Street movement, suggesting that it consists mainly of brainless menaces who are easily manipulated by a strongman leader. The filmmakers deny this.
Regardless, this was probably the best political feature of the film.
However, the merit of its warning about left-wing populism was seriously compromised by the portrayal of the Gotham cops as saintly guardians of the social order. Neoconservatives loved this part of the film, made all the better to them because the prisons are full and Gotham is ruled by a civilian-led authoritarian regime of tight law and surveillance — the neocon dream come true.
What’s going on here? Why is the movie so full of mixed messages and, in the end, so unsatisfying?
Finally, it hit me. And this will be perfectly obvious once you hear it.
The problem is that the film gives Gotham (and us) a choice between two forms of despotism, one “left wing” and one “right wing,” and asks us to choose the lesser of two evils. We can have one of two systems: bureaucratic/authoritarian or revolutionary/dictatorial. The idea of a self-managing society is just out of the question. The film biases that choice by showing one as offered by the evil villain and the other by a corrupt, yet stable status quo.
Do you see now? Dark Knight Rises replicates the choice that the present political system presents to us. We look at the choices and throw up our hands, knowing full well that neither really offers answers to the problem. Watching this film is like watching the Sunday talk shows that feature two flavors of the same poison. It’s the State of the Union address and the response to the State of the Union address, neither of which tells what’s true or gives us a way out.
It’s the two sides of the street fights between the Occupy protesters and the cops. It’s the left versus the right. It’s Republicans versus Democrats. It’s “law and order” versus revolutionary dictatorship. It’s Italian fascism versus Soviet communism. It’s the two sides of the Spanish Civil War. It is also the choice faced by old Rome in its late stage: rule by a corrupt oligarchy of the Senate or a cruel imperial dictatorship of Caesar.
It is the choice given to every nation in its late stages. No truly informed citizen believes that this is all that should be on the menu. But Dark Knight Rises doesn’t show us another way. It never shows us the option of a self-managing society where people are permitted to shape their own destinies apart from the will of two gangs of political elites. Whoever wins the great struggle over Gotham’s future, the results will be imposed from the top down.
The result is that viewers are left with a sense of hopelessness in the same way that the current political climate denies people authentic hope. Whatever happens will come from the center and top, leaving the rest of us unfree to manage our own lives, keep and use our own property, mind our own business and cobble together our own human associations. In The Dark Knight Rises, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are not even distant memories.
The film opens with Bruce Wayne/Batman in a long period of retirement, living alone in his mansion during eight years of stability in Gotham. But what is this stability, really? It’s not prosperity, because the homes for orphans are full and they can’t get jobs once they are too old to live there. The prisons are jammed with supposedly violent thugs and the leaders of organized crime, swept off the streets thanks to a new draconian law that unleashed government power.
The new law is named after martyred district attorney Harvey Dent. In the first scenes of Gotham, the city is celebrating Harvey Dent Day. The police are in firm control of the city, as led by the police commissioner and the political powers of the city. From the perspective of the elites, nothing is wrong. Life is blessedly boring. Crime has fallen so low that police joke about soon having to chase down people with overdue library books.
Is there corruption? Of course. This is Gotham. In fact, the corruption is so deep and pervasive that the saintly district attorney after whom the present order is named is a lie. He is actually the villain named Two-Face — a perfect metaphor for every member of the political class. In his tenure, he said one thing and did another. People thought he was doing good, but he was secretly doing evil. Even the best men of the current regime in Gotham are willing to spread the lie of the greatness of Dent, solely for the purpose of maintaining government power and immunizing the power structure from criticism.
The strongman dictator Bane sees the vulnerability of this seemingly stable system. He perceives that people are seeking something, some form of liberation, and that he can use this political impulse to solidify his control over Gotham on his way to plotting its final destruction. He recruits the unemployed to work under the city in the sewers to plot his takeover.
Bane has plenty of people willing to risk death to work for him, both because they are desperate and because Bane offers a radical alternative to the present order. Meanwhile, the city elites go on about their daily tasks, completely oblivious to what is happening beneath the surface.
At the appointed hour, Bane initiates shock and awe in the form of massive explosions throughout the city. At the football game where a large portion of Gotham’s citizens are gathering, Bane blows up the field, and announces to everyone that he is the new leader of the city. Their elites have failed and now a people’s revolution is taking place.
“Gotham, take control,” Bane says, “take control of your city. Behold, the instrument of your liberation! Identify yourself to the world!”
The rich are looted. The prisoners are set free to become armed gangs in the Bane regime. Show trials are established on the model of the late stages of the French Revolution. Guilt is presumed and everyone is sent to die, to the cheers of the workers and peasants. Meanwhile, the bourgeoisie cower in their homes in fear.
This is when the Dark Knight rises to set the world right again. His most-loyal allies in this army are the massive number of police who had been recruited during the years of seemingly crimeless stability.
As audience members, we are being asked to cheer for Batman because he opposes the bloody and ruthless Bane, who is a Stalin-like figure. But the best possible result that Gotham can get out of this is a restoration and intensification of the previous fascist system of police, prisons, rule by corrupt elites and mandatory obedience to Gotham’s version of the Patriot Act and the Department of Homeland Security.
As a result, it is hard to cheer. The choice is left or right dictatorship. It is Occupy versus the cops. It is Stalin versus Mussolini all over again. It is Hoover versus FDR. It is the Democrat despot or the Republican despot.
This is the dreadful choice that political systems all over the world have set up. You have to decide, based on your cultural identity and ideological preferences, what form of top-down rule you desire. There’s Plan A or Plan B, but no Plan C. There are two types of prison cells, but there is no way out of the prison itself. Our choices are not really authentic choices. All of us are inchoately aware that whatever the results are, we will not be freer than we were before.
One of the most-compelling images of the film is a prison that is considered the worst prison in the world. It is buried deep in a hole. You can look up 200 feet in the air and see the light, but there is no way that ordinary people can climb out. This is a chilling image of where most people in the developed world are today. We look up and we see a far-distant light, and that light is called liberty. But we don’t see a way to get there.
This much we can see. There is no Dark Knight who will save us. We must save ourselves. "
Jeffrey A. Tucker Article Original Source
Other recent onebornfree "Batman- The Dark Knight Rises" articles: http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/2012/08/was-batman-shooting-government-staged.html
Wednesday, June 27, 2012
"The Dark Knight Rises":Subliminal Programming?
Onebornfree commentary: This video monologue by Alex Jones of "Prison Planet" , postulates the use of subliminal programming of the viewer via the major "players" in Hollywood who are in cahoots with the federal government via the Defense Department etc. [Something you are presumably already aware of]
He makes a number of very interesting propositions, chief of which is that the government is attempting to brainwash you into accepting more and more of its "one world" agenda via movies such as the "Dark Knight" trilogy. To an extent, I agree.
However,Mr Jones misses a couple of obvious points:
1] Most people are already pre-conditioned to the mentality Mr Jones says we are all being led towards. This is not brainwashing as such but just more "positive" reinforcement of the dominant themes he lists that are already in place in the minds of most of the population, put there by the childhood conditioning of government-funded and run education, and then expanded on and further reinforced via the press and TV, whose employees, by and large, are formerly state "educated" and already think that way.
2] As a market/ business proposition [i.e. in order to make money], it makes perfect sense for a movie maker to target as large an audience demographic as possible. As most people are unalterably statist in mentality, it makes perfect sense, business-wise, to target that mentality specifically and play/pander to its fantasy world of "the government knows best- and therefor to solve crime "problems" we need Batman style characters who can tap into our cell phones, computers etc. etc. and make the world safe for everyone" . Of course, [from my point of view] the best directors, instead of just pandering to that demographic, will find ways to subtly question it, poke fun at it, or openly deride it, without arousing the suspicions of the Defense Department et al.
3] Assuming that this movie is by the same director as the previous two in the series [Christopher Nolan], a very astute director [I particularly enjoyed "Memento", which, to my mind was anti-state], it is unclear, at least to myself, exactly what the true political message in the Dark Knight series really is. Mr Nolan is a particularly adept film maker and it is even possible that in fact the Dark Knight series is actually some sort of tongue in cheek , over the top commentary on the whole ridiculous idea that Alex Jones is so sure we are all being conditioned to accept. [Despite the fact that most of us are already conditioned that way and never even question it :-)]
Regards, onebornfree.
P.S. The Freedom Network:
The Freedom Network is an international leaderless network for those of us who are interested in pursuing more "freedom in an unfree world", and in meeting/networking with other, like-minded individuals [for employment opportunities, information, contacts, business ideas, socializing, or whatever], and which would almost certainly include an interest in looking for ways to be free from governments, and subliminal government programming etc. :-) ] :
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